主题：【讨论】REACH的关于SVHC新法规不承认混测结果的问题

谁不能混测呢？
http://curia.europa.eu/juris/celex.jsf?celex=62014CJ0106&lang1=en&type=TXT&ancre=
JUDGMENT OF THE COURT (Third Chamber)
10 September 2015 (*)
It follows from all the foregoing considerations that the answer to the question referred is as follows:
-        Article 7(2) of the REACH Regulation must be interpreted as meaning that, for the purposes of application of that provision,        it is for the producer to determine whether a substance of very high concern identified in accordance with Article 59(1) of        that regulation is present in a concentration above 0.1% weight by weight of any article it produces and, for the importer        of a product made up of more than one article, to determine for each article whether such a substance is present in a concentration        above 0.1% weight by weight of that article.
-        Article 33 of the REACH Regulation must be interpreted as meaning that, for the purposes of application of that provision,        it is for the supplier of a product one or more constituent articles of which contain(s) a substance of very high concern        identified in accordance with Article 59(1) of that regulation in a concentration above 0.1% weight by weight of that article,        to inform the recipient and, on request, the consumer, of the presence of that substance by providing them, as a minimum,        with the name of the substance in question.

原文由 linze1981(linze1981) 发表:
谁不能混测呢？
http://curia.europa.eu/juris/celex.jsf?celex=62014CJ0106&lang1=en&type=TXT&ancre=
JUDGMENT OF THE COURT (Third Chamber)
10 September 2015 (*)
It follows from all the foregoing considerations that the answer to the question referred is as follows:
-        Article 7(2) of the REACH Regulation must be interpreted as meaning that, for the purposes of application of that provision,        it is for the producer to determine whether a substance of very high concern identified in accordance with Article 59(1) of        that regulation is present in a concentration above 0.1% weight by weight of any article it produces and, for the importer        of a product made up of more than one article, to determine for each article whether such a substance is present in a concentration        above 0.1% weight by weight of that article.
-        Article 33 of the REACH Regulation must be interpreted as meaning that, for the purposes of application of that provision,        it is for the supplier of a product one or more constituent articles of which contain(s) a substance of very high concern        identified in accordance with Article 59(1) of that regulation in a concentration above 0.1% weight by weight of that article,        to inform the recipient and, on request, the consumer, of the presence of that substance by providing them, as a minimum,        with the name of the substance in question.

我的意思就是这个，他是说每一个物品都需要确认，这样的话是不是每个部件都要去单独测，然后算重量，而不是按整机去算呢

这个修正案说的 是最新定义：Article  这个定义的吧？ 欧盟此前各成员国对于物品（article）的定义不尽相同的。

原文由 newjame(newjame) 发表:
我的意思就是这个，他是说每一个物品都需要确认，这样的话是不是每个部件都要去单独测，然后算重量，而不是按整机去算呢

对，产品中含量的计算只能以部件为基准。现在只是欧盟法院做了判决，欧盟委员会以及ECHA都还未就此判决做出指导性文件。听说现在很多欧盟的成员以及商会都极力反对，因新的要求很大程度上损害的是进口商的利益。要能实施，除非是给出一定过渡期。

原文由 tayzan(tayzan) 发表:
对，产品中含量的计算只能以部件为基准。现在只是欧盟法院做了判决，欧盟委员会以及ECHA都还未就此判决做出指导性文件。听说现在很多欧盟的成员以及商会都极力反对，因新的要求很大程度上损害的是进口商的利益。要能实施，除非是给出一定过渡期。

那就要看这个欧盟委员会以及ECHA是不是还会像出新玩具标准那样果决了

真要这样算就麻烦大了！想到一个问题，如果欧盟进口商进口半成品散件到自己的工厂组装成成品，再在市场销售，这种情况下，中国工厂所出售的每个半成品/组件是不是都要满足SVHC不超过0.1%的要求？

原文由 tianquer(tianquer) 发表:
真要这样算就麻烦大了！想到一个问题，如果欧盟进口商进口半成品散件到自己的工厂组装成成品，再在市场销售，这种情况下，中国工厂所出售的每个半成品/组件是不是都要满足SVHC不超过0.1%的要求？

有这个想法，见过一家第三方的建议是拆至简单组件再测试。

首先，判决并没有明确指出不接受混合测试结果。
其次，如果继续考虑混测：
按最大化算，选10个不同类型的塑料测试，所有SVHC物质结果都不超过100ppm，那么最极端的情况就是某个塑料的某个物质接近1000ppm，但是这还是没有超过欧盟的规定。
那么单个零部件的上述10个塑料就不存在超标的问题，也就不需要传递信息。
所以继续混测的话，只要保证结果不超出对应的数值，依然可以考虑混测的。
问题来了，上述推论是正确的吗？

这个法庭的判决，应该不是混测不混测的问题，应该是如何计算SVHC浓度的问题，只不过在计算浓度的时候是基于整个产品（ARTICLE)还是部件（COMPONENT)还是均质材料，比如RoHS是均质材料，可以直接用测试的数据，几乎不用换算。SVHC以前是基于article的重量，现在是不是基于component呢？
希望大家都来说说这个。

原文由 yqj-456(yqj-456) 发表:
这个法庭的判决，应该不是混测不混测的问题，应该是如何计算SVHC浓度的问题，只不过在计算浓度的时候是基于整个产品（ARTICLE)还是部件（COMPONENT)还是均质材料，比如RoHS是均质材料，可以直接用测试的数据，几乎不用换算。SVHC以前是基于article的重量，现在是不是基于component呢？
希望大家都来说说这个。

的确有点折腾啊！标准的严格性是会增加很多工作的