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PharmPK Discussion - Method validation, HPLC Specificity
•    On 29 Jun 2005 at 15:10:08, Roy Carambula (roycara.-a-.yahoo.com) sent the message

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Dear list,

We are currently validating an HPLC method for detection and
quantitation of a drug product impurity in a biological matrix. All aspects of the validation have been agreed upon except for Specificity. This impurity is introduced during manufacturing and later removed.
Our HPLC consultants (let's call them) insist that quote:
"...specificity is not required when using a PDA detector with spectral library... which for all practical purposes is infallible". The library in fact contains the molecule to be detected and quantitated and in fact recognizes it; we also understand their
argument except that we still think this should be validated into the assay.
Also, the substance in question is readily available as well as an
analog substance. Another point is that the cost and time involved in including specificity would be negligible.
The assay is based on the USP assay for this substance and in fact it lists the analog substance as "resolution solution". Our HPLC consultants also insist that the resolution solution is not needed as part of the assay, and in fact it is not included in our current method.

I was wondering what the list might think about this, in particular
relating to what the FDA's position might be on this.

Regards,

Roy
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•    On 9 Aug 2005 at 14:17:56, "Murthy, Satya" (Murthy.-a-.genta.com) sent the message

Hi:

Specificity is the ability of the analytical method to measure the
analyte in the presence of other components that are expected to be present. For the determination of specificity, samples are prepared by spiking possible interfering agents (impurities, degradation products, excipients etc.).  Recovery of the analyte from the spiked sample is compared to the unspiked sample and a percent agreement is calculated. A percent agreement of close to 100% indicates the absence of any bias in the analytical procedure that is caused by the presence of interfering agents.

Based on the above definition, you will need to demonstrate
specificity of the method by spiking the biological matrix plus the
parent compound.

Satya Murthy, Ph.D.
Analytical Development
Genta Inc.,
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•    On 9 Aug 2005 at 18:35:09, Stanley110.aaa.aol.com sent the message

Not exactly true.
A specific method is one where the method of detection detects only
the analyte of interest, in the presence of all others. The others do
not generate a signal from the detector.
A selective method is one where the method of detection detects the
analyte of interest and some to all of the others present. However
the method resolves the signal from the analyte of interest from
those of the others, allowing quantitation.
Stan Alekman

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•    On 5 Aug 2005 at 06:07:39, Prashant Musmade (pmusmade.-at-.yahoo.co.in) sent the message

Dear Si r
I have some quiries about the bionalaytical method validation.
If drug is Prodrug and it is conveting any form which active and
giving the action. at that time while doing the bioanalytical method
validation in plasma what subsatance we have to use.
Please suggest it Thank you in Advanced
•    On 5 Aug 2005 at 13:08:28, "Nageshwar R. Thudi" (nageshwar.thudi.-a-.ranbaxy.com) sent the message

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Hi prashant

Without any doubt you have to estimate the therapeutically active moiety in case of prodrugs example in case of nabumetone you have to estimate 6-MNA.

Hope this will be helpful
nageshwar
•    On 5 Aug 2005 at 12:31:15, Xiaodong Shen (shenxiaodong11.at.yahoo.com) sent the message
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Hi,

I would say you need to validate an assay monitoring both prodrug and active component.

Xiaodong
•    On 5 Aug 2005 at 16:39:54, srinivas kanikanti (kanikanti9.-at-.yahoo.com) sent the message

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Hi

As per the regulatory requirement you need to analyse the pharmacologically Active component( It doesn't matter how much it is effective).
If you know the how much the parent compound is bioavailable.
If it is not bioavalilable you can go ahead with the Active substance. And you have to carryout the specificity with respect to the the parent drug.

i this will help you.
others openions also needed.

Srinivas

•    On 8 Aug 2005 at 09:08:04, RAJU KALLEM (rajkallem.-at-.yahoo.com) sent the message

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Dear Prashant,
I suppose prodrug approch is to improve the solubility and absorption of the active moiety.
So we have to estimate the therapeutically active moiety (parent compound)not the prodrug. hope this will help
Raj
•    On 8 Aug 2005 at 10:31:38, "Joyce James" (jjames.aaa.ambitbio.com) sent the message

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Dear Prashant,
It's always good to know how much prodrug you have on board too.  If the prodrug is stable in plasma, you may be able to monitor both drug and prodrug.  Both will be relevant for filing.  If this is just to see if the prodrug approach did improve bio-availability, then you can forego monitoring prodrug.
Good luck,
Joyce

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•    On 21 Mar 2007 at 16:10:50, "Molokwane, Jerry" (jerry_molokwane.at.merck.com) sent the message

What is the definition of an absorption window and what causes it and how can it be overcome?

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Jerry
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•    On 21 Mar 2007 at 16:39:32, fredericdoc.-a-.netcourrier.com sent the message

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Dear Jerry,

>What is the definition of an absorption window and what causes it Some drugs are only soluble at a particular pH or they are absorbed using a specific mechanism. With such properties those drugs can only be absorbed in specific segments of the GI tract. Those particular segments are named "absorption windows". As you probably anticipate this concept of absorption window is an intrinsic consequence of drug properties.

>how can it be overcome?

Different solutions can be pointed out. One of these is the development of a drug dosage form that exhibits bioadhesive properties in the targeted segment of the intestine where the drug must be released to be absorbed.
Other solutions, such as chemical optimisation, can be used.

Hope this helps,
Frederic

Frederic Doc
ACRITER - drug discovery consulting
fdoc.aaa.acriter-consulting.com
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•    On 21 Mar 2007 at 16:36:59, "Shawn D. Spencer" (shawn.spencer.-at-.famu.edu) sent the message

Jerry,

I would also consider that the in a very practical sense, pH partition theory has not been shown to markedly affect most drugs, in lieu of surface area.  As such, Absorption Window ( in units of length ) is likely primarily a function function of the permeability- surface area product.

Any factors which effectively increase the SITT (small intestinal transit time) could result in a reversal of a negative reserve length (i.e., remaing length of GI "required" for absorption), effectively counteracting a short absorption window.  Likewise, a prodrug with increased permeability, or perhaps even increased solubilization of your drug, may improve (apparent) absorption rate, and consequently, likely extent.

Factors which may increase SITT (i.e., increasing the drug residence time in the GI) are numerous, and you should have no problem identifying them, however, formulation tactics or alternatives are obviously preferable.

Hope that helps.

Shawn D. Spencer, Ph.D., R.Ph.
Assistant Professor of Biopharmaceutics and Pharmacokinetics
College of Pharmacy and Pharmaceutical Sciences
Florida A&M University
Tallahassee, FL 32307
shawn.spencer.at.famu.edu
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    On 21 Mar 2007 at 22:25:00, "Walt Woltosz" (walt.-at-.simulations-plus.com) sent the message
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An absorption window can be thought of as a window in time or in
distance (or location). I'm not fond of the term at all (I like "reserve length" even less), but if it must be used, I think it is more appropriate to think of it in terms of distance (from the pylorus) rather than time.

Most drugs are not absorbed in the stomach in any significant amount, so the opportunity for absorption usually begins with gastric emptying. Once the drug enters the small intestine, it enters an environment where six primary factors affect how well it will be absorbed:

(1) PERMEABILITY FOR PASSIVE DIFFUSION: Passive diffusion accounts
for most drug absorption, although in our experience, more and more carrier- mediated compounds seem to be appearing in discovery and development. The basic permeability will change with ionization and for some drugs, with tight junction gap (see 4 below). The permeability in jejunum is the standard for comparison, based on the compounds that were measured in human jejunum by Hans Lennernas and Gordon Amidon for the Biopharmaceutics Classification System. Human jejunum effective permeability (Peff) is often estimated from cell culture experiments or in silico predictions, and then for simulations, permeabilities in other regions of the intestinal tract are adjusted as required to account for the factors listed below.

(2) TRANSPORTERS: If the drug is a substrate for carrier-mediated
transport, passive diffusion will be supplemented or hindered by the local expression level of the transporter(s), which may differ along the intestinal tract (e.g., PepT1 or bile acid carrier for influx transport, or P-gp for efflux transport). For influx transporter substrates, regions with high transporter expression will have high permeability, while other regions may be much lower. For efflux transporters, regions with high expressions will have reduced permeability unless the transporters are saturated. For P-gp substrates, most marketed drugs that are P-gp substrates easily saturate the transporter, so the effect is small.

(3) LOCAL PH: The local pH in any region affects both solubility and permeability, and for some drugs, degradation rate.

If the drug has low solubility, it may not dissolve quickly at the pH in some regions, and in fact it may precipitate. For example, a base (especially with a pKa below about 6) that is completely dissolved in stomach (pH < 2) may precipitate when it transits into the small intestine and colon (pH 4.5-7.8). During fed state, this may be offset in the proximal
small intestine due to the presence of bile salts. Precipitation can be fast or very slow, so this effect may be significant for one drug but not for another that can remain supersaturated for a long time.

As the degree of ionization changes with pH, regions with pH that cause ionization to be higher would expect to show lower passive permeability. Note that for low solubility drugs, this may be offset by an improvement in solubility. Of course, if the drug is completely in solution, then only a decrease in permeability might be observed.

Some drugs are degraded in the lumen in a pH-dependent manner (e.g., Valacyclovir). For such drugs, some regions may cause rapid degradation, while others may show little or no degradation. Degradation can be avoided by formulating so that the drug is not in solution in regions of high degradation rate, but is released/dissolved in a more favorable region.

(4) TIGHT JUNCTION GAP: Some drugs (e.g., atenolol) are absorbed
primarily via paracellular transport. The tight junction gap in the proximal small intestine is the widest, narrowing as the distance from the duodenum increases, and much less in colon. For such drugs, if they are not in solution in regions with sufficiently large tight junction gap, then the opportunity for absorption is decreased dramatically.

(5) SURFACE AREA: The overall absorbing surface area in the small
intestine and colon decreases aborally. I don't think this is the cause for the appearance of an "absorption window" because these changes are gradual in the small intestine. Because the colon does not have villi (only microvilli), the surface area in colon is much less than in small intestine, so a drug that is poorly absorbed in colon might have the entire small intestine as its "absorption window"

(6) RESIDENCE TIME IN THE ABSORBING REGIONS: For drugs that are
affected by any of the above factors, the amount of time the drug is in solution in the region(s) that favor absorption will be important. Transit times vary widely among subjects and within subjects, so data for such drugs can be problematic to analyze due to high variances likely to be encountered over multiple data sets.

A further complication is that what is often called an "absorption window" is actually a "bioavailability window".

The modern definition of absorption is entering the apical membrane of the enterocytes (or the paracellular pathway beyond the tight junctions).
Drug that has left the lumen has been absorbed, regardless of what happens to it after that. Drugs that are metabolized in the gut wall (e.g., by 3A4) may be well absorbed, but poorly bioavailable (e.g., midazolam and saquinavir).
Because the expression level of 3A4 is highest in the proximal small intestine, and decreases rapidly with distance from the pylorus, drugs that are substrates for 3A4 metabolism may exhibit a "bioavailability window" that begins after the 3A4 expression level has dropped.

Oral absorption can be complex, but fortunately for most drugs, only one complexity at a time is an issue. Now and then we see drugs with
combined effects, such as Valacyclovir, a drug which undergoes pH-dependent degradation that is also a Pept1 substrate and an HPT1 substrate, or a drug like saquinavir, which is both a 3A4 substrate and a P-gp substrate.

Walt Woltosz
Chairman & CEO
Simulations Plus, Inc. (AMEX: SLP)
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Lancaster, CA  93534-7059
U.S.A.
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里面的单词还真不少,就象resolution solution这样,不了解的还真难翻译。“分离度溶液“,有点拗口,分辨度、分辨率、参比溶液???
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里面的单词还真不少,就象resolution solution这样,不了解的还真难翻译。“分离度溶液“,有点拗口,分辨度、分辨率、参比溶液???

参比溶液好像是最合适的了
跟control solution 没有关系阿??
这个样品好像spiked了的
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